February 1, 2008 6:36 AM
Sam wrote:
I seemed to have chased everyone off with suggesting Revelation. Maybe we're not ready yet for that book. This is Matthew; one we've all read a lot (at least portions of it). Matthew 1.There are quite a few recognizable names in the lineage of Jesus. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Judah, Boaz, Rahab, Ruth, Jesse, David, Solomon, and of course Abijah (for some reason I always liked SAYING that name). And don't forget Asa, Jehoshophat and the many others whom we have read a lot about. It is amazing how this lineage was preserved from the time of Abraham, until it was written several centuries later. Heck, I don't even know who my great grandparents were, let along some 27 generations ago! That goes to show how important Jesus was. Everyone knew of Him, and many got to meet this 'man among men'. I would like to think that I was blood-related to Jesus somehow. Maybe one of his half-brothers could be one of my g-g-g-g-g-g (well you get the point) grandfather. Of course, I doubt that, but it is a thought anyway. But, as far as being blood-related to Jesus, I am, in a different sort of way. It was the blood of this man, which He lost on the Cross, which now makes me related to Him. I, like you, were adopted by Jesus when we were baptized and became a Christian. What a glorious bloodline THAT is. And short. Directly from Him to each of us. Although it may be important to prove to men that Jesus was descended from men of God, the more important fact is that this man took it upon Himself to take away all of earth's sins, as long as we let Him. Because of His spilled blood, we are all related. We don't need to list all of our names in a long line, as we are already written into His book of Life. THAT is the lineage I am so happy to be a part of. Reply to this
February 1, 2008 7:32 AM
Crowell wrote:
I liked your post Sam. But too short on time to discuss the 3 points I have as to why I liked your post so much.
Additionally what troubles me the most about Mt 1 is why is the genealogy of Jesus given by Matthew so different from Luke's version (Lk 3). I have found a couple of explanations, but neither fully satisfies me. Anyway I will try to write more about this later.
Finally, is anyone up to meeting tomorrow? If my suggested topics are keeping you away, then please suggest some of your own. Or if the place, or the time, or length of time to meet is the problem, please suggest changes there too.
February 1, 2008 8:14 AM
Rich wrote:
Sorry for not posting for past 2 days, especially to you Mac. I do not want you to think Rev scared me off. It is a difficult book, but there is much exciting stuff in there. I have continued to read and plan to continue.
Rev 5-7: I have not specific idea what John is talking about here, but that does not make reading worthless. What I take from these chapters is that heaven is a busy, happening place! There is a lot going on there. I have always wondered about whether people get bored in heaven. And if not, why not. Heaven is always portrayed in movies as a serene, quiet, 'twinkly' music place. That is not what is described here. And the great multitude of believers dressed in white robes continuously praising God. WOW!!! Why would they be praising God continuously if heaven was not just the most awesome place imaginable. Heaven is AWESOME. God is AWESOME. I am starting to think of heaven like one of the best movies I have ever seen that just continues on forever. The first time I saw Lord of the Rings (the first one), I was mesmerized from beginning to end. So much so that I was actually tired when I walked out of the theater. It was non-stop action with what seemed like continuous changes. I had no notion of time or of others around me while watching. From what I read in Rev, heaven sounds the same, except that heaven never ends and people in heaven never seem to get tired of what they see. As I said, like a movie that never ends (by the way, another great movie - The Never Ending Story). Reply to this
Obviously, I missed your whole discussion on Rev. And my comment would be better posted as a poll question. But I don't see how to do that here. If I'm just missing it, then someone please educate me.
My Comment (Poll question for everyone) =======================================
What is your belief, opinion, gut-feel, etc. about the events described in the 22 chapters of Revelation -- are the events primarily past, present, or future?
It is my belief Revelation 1 thru 22 is describing past and present events, with basically only one exception, that being Christ's return.
This book also contains my favorite verse of the entire Bible -- Rev. 22:20 "He who testifies to these things says, 'Yes, I am coming soon.' (and the church said) Amen! Come, Lord Jesus!" Scripture quote taken from the NIV, with the exception of the parenthetical comment and exclamations, which are taken from the N. T. Crowell, Jr. Version (Unauthorized) Reply to this
February 1, 2008 3:35 PM
rik wrote:
hi, all I am still feeling a tad underthe weather. hoping the rest will help me. I am struggling to read as of late. the words seem to bounce off my face, not entering my brain. sorry to all for not having any cents to add. Reply to this
February 1, 2008 6:34 PM
Crowell wrote:
hey all, looks like no one can make it to mcdonalds. so i won't be there. didn't want anyone to show thinking i would be there. Reply to this
I seemed to have chased everyone off with suggesting Revelation. Maybe we're not ready yet for that book. This is Matthew; one we've all read a lot (at least portions of it).
Matthew 1.There are quite a few recognizable names in the lineage of Jesus. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Judah, Boaz, Rahab, Ruth, Jesse, David, Solomon, and of course Abijah (for some reason I always liked SAYING that name). And don't forget Asa, Jehoshophat and the many others whom we have read a lot about. It is amazing how this lineage was preserved from the time of Abraham, until it was written several centuries later. Heck, I don't even know who my great grandparents were, let along some 27 generations ago! That goes to show how important Jesus was. Everyone knew of Him, and many got to meet this 'man among men'. I would like to think that I was blood-related to Jesus somehow. Maybe one of his half-brothers could be one of my g-g-g-g-g-g (well you get the point) grandfather. Of course, I doubt that, but it is a thought anyway. But, as far as being blood-related to Jesus, I am, in a different sort of way. It was the blood of this man, which He lost on the Cross, which now makes me related to Him. I, like you, were adopted by Jesus when we were baptized and became a Christian. What a glorious bloodline THAT is. And short. Directly from Him to each of us. Although it may be important to prove to men that Jesus was descended from men of God, the more important fact is that this man took it upon Himself to take away all of earth's sins, as long as we let Him. Because of His spilled blood, we are all related. We don't need to list all of our names in a long line, as we are already written into His book of Life. THAT is the lineage I am so happy to be a part of.
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I liked your post Sam. But too short on time to discuss the 3 points I have as to why I liked your post so much.
Additionally what troubles me the most about Mt 1 is why is the genealogy of Jesus given by Matthew so different from Luke's version (Lk 3). I have found a couple of explanations, but neither fully satisfies me. Anyway I will try to write more about this later.
Finally, is anyone up to meeting tomorrow? If my suggested topics are keeping you away, then please suggest some of your own. Or if the place, or the time, or length of time to meet is the problem, please suggest changes there too.
I will check back later. Gotta run.
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Sorry for not posting for past 2 days, especially to you Mac. I do not want you to think Rev scared me off. It is a difficult book, but there is much exciting stuff in there. I have continued to read and plan to continue.
Rev 5-7: I have not specific idea what John is talking about here, but that does not make reading worthless. What I take from these chapters is that heaven is a busy, happening place! There is a lot going on there. I have always wondered about whether people get bored in heaven. And if not, why not. Heaven is always portrayed in movies as a serene, quiet, 'twinkly' music place. That is not what is described here. And the great multitude of believers dressed in white robes continuously praising God. WOW!!! Why would they be praising God continuously if heaven was not just the most awesome place imaginable. Heaven is AWESOME. God is AWESOME. I am starting to think of heaven like one of the best movies I have ever seen that just continues on forever. The first time I saw Lord of the Rings (the first one), I was mesmerized from beginning to end. So much so that I was actually tired when I walked out of the theater. It was non-stop action with what seemed like continuous changes. I had no notion of time or of others around me while watching. From what I read in Rev, heaven sounds the same, except that heaven never ends and people in heaven never seem to get tired of what they see. As I said, like a movie that never ends (by the way, another great movie - The Never Ending Story).
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Sam, Rich, et. al.,
Obviously, I missed your whole discussion on Rev. And my comment would be better posted as a poll question. But I don't see how to do that here. If I'm just missing it, then someone please educate me.
My Comment (Poll question for everyone)
=======================================
What is your belief, opinion, gut-feel, etc. about the events described in the 22 chapters of Revelation -- are the events primarily past, present, or future?
It is my belief Revelation 1 thru 22 is describing past and present events, with basically only one exception, that being Christ's return.
This book also contains my favorite verse of the entire Bible -- Rev. 22:20 "He who testifies to these things says, 'Yes, I am coming soon.' (and the church said) Amen! Come, Lord Jesus!" Scripture quote taken from the NIV, with the exception of the parenthetical comment and exclamations, which are taken from the N. T. Crowell, Jr. Version (Unauthorized)
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hi, all I am still feeling a tad underthe weather. hoping the rest will help me. I am struggling to read as of late. the words seem to bounce off my face, not entering my brain. sorry to all for not having any cents to add.
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hey all, looks like no one can make it to mcdonalds. so i won't be there. didn't want anyone to show thinking i would be there.
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sorry to hear you are still ill. hoping and praying that you are well in time for the super bowl.
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